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e-mail fr John Preston Halstead to Mark R. Halstead 7 Nov 2000
"Now as to your e-mail of 11/6, you apparently haven't come
across the article by Matthew Wood in the New York Gen. & Biog.
Record vol.120-121(1989-90) entitled "English Origins of the
Mitchell, Wood, Lum and Halstead Families". It addresses most
of the matters you bring up in your e-mail, and you really
ought to study it before we discuss these things any further
so that you can see where I'm coming from. I assume you're at a
place where you can get hold of a copy.
As for the maiden name of Susan Whitley's mother, Annis
Hartley came from Wardwell's 1941 article in TAG. He and
Seversmith disposed of this error in the Seversmsith Ms.,
p.1264 where they showed that her mother was Agnes Mawde. I
suppose you have a copy of that available. "
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:37:59 EDT Benwaggi@aol.com writes:
Dear CL:
I am beginning to study the GEDCOM you sent on the descendants
of HALSTEDEA Susan Whitley married Abraham (b.1570) Sep. 5,
1596. The GEDCOM (item 18, page 5) that I have from you states
that she died 6 July 1669 in Halifax, West Riding, Yorkshire,
England.
Note: Date also verified by Dwight Foquet Halstead.
Wardwell - "It seems reasonable to suppose that Edmund Wood [of
Shelf, northern outskirts of Northowram] and Matthew Mitchell
[of Southowram] were planning their immigration to N.E. that
Jonas Halstead and John Lum his half brother were desirous of
joining the party and asked Edmund Wood to include them. It is
possible that they were employed by or living with Edmund Wood
at the time. Jonas' step father John Lum SR. was then living at
Westercroft in Northowram and had most certainly remarried
after the death of Jonas' mother." [So here we are again trying
to place the death of Susan [Whitley] Halstead-Lum - - - Dwight
and C.L. both show that she died 6 July 1669 in Halifax, West
Riding, Yorkshire, England. - I don't know how or where they
arrived with this information - possibly they can shed some
light here]; It would seem that this quote from Wardwell
supports or at least makes the date 20 Jul 1626 more plausible
than the 1669 suggested date.
LDS Ancestral File cites death 1612 Hempstead, Nassua Cty, NY -
- - not possible, Hempstead not even settled until 1644;
further we have the m. of Susan to 2nd husband John Lum
occurring in 1615 [well after this 'cited' event].
", it appears on p.232 of "Origins of Mitchell, Wood, Lum &
Halstead" that Susan's death coincided with that of an infant -
"[?] infant, buried with mother, 20 Jul 1626;
quoting John Preston Halstead IV, "When I was in England in
1992, I visited Halifax and found the site of Abraham's home in
the suburb of Northowram. Part of a wall of what is probably
the original house is still visible, with two bricked-up
windows and a bricked-up fireplace, I also visited the
Calderdale Library in Halifax and was able to hold in my hands
the parchment deed of Susanna Halstead and John Lome [i.e. Lum]
dated 24 Feb 1614 which stated that Westercroft [the name of
the manor] was "now in the tenure of Susanna Halstead widow of
Abraham Halstead deceased", indicating that Abraham and Susan
were probably living there before the former's death in 1612.";
see also, notes for Westercroft under Abraham Halstead.
John:
Thanks for sharing this information - - - I too believe
that Abraham and Susan lived at Westercroft, and agree with
your reasoning and logic in this message.
Gary
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:58:01 EDT Jshals127@aol.com writes:
> Dear Ben and Gary,
> The deed to Westercroft, which is in the Calderdale
Library in Halifax, is dated 24 Feb.1614/15 and reads:
"Admission of Susan Halstead and John Lane[i.e. Lome, or Lume]
of Shelf, by surrender of John Boys[sic] of Halifax and Ann,
his wife, to copyhold a messuage called Westercroft and closes
in Northowram." It also states, I think it was in a preamble,
that Westercroft was "now in the tenure and occupation of
Susanna Halstead widow of Abraham Halstead deceased.". Here's
what I make out of this. John Boyes was a friend of Abraham who
in his will charged Boyes with the "education tuition and
government" of his son Joseph. Looking at the deed of 1614/15,
it appears that Boyes also held the manor which included
Westercroft. It would seem reasonable that Susan continued to
live in the home occupied by her and Abraham after the latter
died. There would be no reason for her to buy a large house
like Westercroft. Therefore, since she was in occupation of
Westercroft in 1614/15, that's probably where she and Abraham
lived.
> Abraham apparently held the copyhold of that messuage from
his friend Boyes, and when he died the copyhold was transferred
to Susan, and when she married Lum the copyhold was again
transferred to the two of them, as stated in the deed. And the
fact that Lum is called "of Shelf" seems to mean that he was
living there before his marriage to Susan rather than in
Northowram. The reference to "John Lum of Westercroft" which
you mention, is easily explained by the fact that in those days
(indeed, until quite recently in England) whenever a couple
married, the husband assumed ownership of all the wife's
property, and she thereafter had very little to say about it.
In this case, I think it's unusual for both a husband and wife
to be named in a deed, which is one more reason to believe that
Susan was the owner of the Westercroft copyhold when she
married Lum, so she was in a position to lay down some
conditions. BTW, I don't find any reference to John Lum on my
copy of p.1262 in the Seversmith Ms. Are you sure that's the
right page? Does the above answer your questions? > Regards,
John
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